Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Computer Update

Well yesterday was a learning curve for sure. I've been going along for years thinking I was protecting my computer by having a good virus program (Norton 360). Well, I don't have Norton 360 anymore. Let's do a recap of the last week plus. As many of you know I had a very severe virus called TrojanDownloader. We took it to our computer guru and he figured he would have to remove Vista and then reload Vista.

Well, he got to working on this computer and found a litany of problems. It booted up really slow for one and the reason for that? Norton 360. So he removed Norton and it booted in half the time. He then loaded AVG free Version 9.0 virus protection program. Here's where I learned something new. Don't ever just type in AVG Free Version 9.0 into your search engine. Always, I repeat always type in www.download.com. This will take you to cnet, now type in what you want to download. In any event Moses swears by AVG and if you purchase a computer from him that program will be one of two he installs for virus/malware protection.

Next he removed the TrojanDownloader. Then he loaded Lavasoft Ad-Aware to check for malware. He left two different lists of malware this computer had. I didn't count how many let's just say there were two full pages of different malware on this computer. This knowledge didn't make me all that happy since we have been paying Norton quite a bit of money for virus protection. According to Moses, Norton never even addressed any of this malware. We have three computers that no longer have Norton 360. We've made the change across the board.

Can I still get that horrible TrojanDownloader again. Yes, any of us can. Okay Empress Bee...not Mac users. What I've learned today is my computer guru is my best friend. If you use IE then know this. He says it has more holes in that program than Swiss cheese. That's a lot of holes. He recommends using FireFox. Lastly businesses like Norton and McAfee keeps him working on computers. Virtually all the computers brought to his business are either using Norton or McAfee virus programs. These two places are making him lots of money. Bye-bye Norton.

41 comments:

  1. oh..computers..

    guess what? mine had simply given up on me yesterday for reasons I do not know. So that means no blogging at home for the meantime.

    have a nice day Sandee!!

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  2. DOH! Still using Norton 360. May be rethinking that...

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  3. Wow, I'm still using Norton too. Just a little leery about downloading free programs from the Internet but I'll think about this. I use Firefox but my husband still uses IE. I will certainly share about this in my Friday "Things I Learned This Week" post with a link back here. Thanks for the tips!

    Will also share this on delicious.

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  4. I a running Norton Antivirus (not 360) and Ad Aware. Combined, if kept religiously updated, they have caught everything from a few little tracking cookies to several Trojans. I've not had one slip through the net so far, but...

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  5. I've been using Firefox for over a year now, upon the recommendation of a fellow blogger. I don't think I've ever used Norton, but again, a fellow blogger recommended AVG a couple of years ago. Maybe this blogging this has an upside after all.
    Sorry about your problems.

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  6. I got that same virus and had to have everything taken off my computer to get rid of the virus. I stopped using Norton a long time ago. I was using AVG and got another virus. So now I am using Kaspersky which was recommended to me by the guy that fixed my computer. BUT I think that AVG is good. I have heard great reports about it. I personally don't think any of them stop the virus. Hope you don't have any more trouble.

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  7. Yikes, my laptop has Norton, too. I used to use Lavasoft on all my computers for years. Haven't had a reason to yet on this one, but might get it installed just to check. Can't hurt.

    Thanks for sharing your experience so we can learn from it.

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  8. Oh... Well, I have had this trouble for many years. With every new Antivirus version, there is a newer Virus.
    One of my friends suggested me Avast. Now lets see till when that works... lol

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  9. I stopped using Norton a long time ago myself as it just seemed to take up WAY too much space on my hard drive. I've also been using Firefox now for years and very, very rarely use IE.

    Glad to hear you've got a good computer guy who knows his stuff!

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  10. I swear by the free version of AVG. Thanks for sharing your experience... If something comes up I know what to look for.

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  11. Glad to know you are up and running again. I stopped using Norton a couple of years ago, and I use Macs.

    Keep up your good works.

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  12. My husband swears by Norton but I stopped using it years ago including at the office. I loaded AVG and Lavasoft on all the office computers and we never had a problem. I used it on my home pc too. I have been using a MAC for the past 2 1/2 years but I just replaced my XP running pc with a Windows 7 running laptop. It came with McAfee and if I ever turn it on again I am going to dump the McAfee and load AVG and Lavasoft. The application Norton had that was great was "go back" and the new 360 doesn't have it so therefore not worth the money.

    CNET is a great source of downloads and reviews. For MAC users they also have MAC apps...everyone should have it bookmarked and check it first when looking for new apps. I just checked my "Computer" bookmarks folder to get the link for ya and discovered it is the first on the list...that's how much I've used it over the years (and yes that's how long I've had all of my bookmarks - some go back years and years - Yea for the xmarks program)

    CNET

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  13. just.
    get.
    a.
    mac.

    the.
    end.

    smiles, bee
    xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

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  14. I have been using Firefox and McCaffe. So far so good...!
    Thanks for sharing valuable inputs on operation virus.

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  15. I use McAfee but it sucks. I do run SpyBot Search and Destroy (free software) and it catches everything. I run it whenever my pc slows down just a wee bit and after running it(it does take a long time to run, about an hour) it runs like it was new. I'm glad you got things fixed.

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  16. Sandee,first of all I'm still with Entrecard.Secondly thanks for the info.I have mcafee on my computers that going as well.

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  17. Huh, I'm glad I read this now. I have Norton and about to my charged for another year of service so I'm going to cancel it and download those two programs-and do the same on my Mom's computer.

    Thanks!

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  18. I hate Norton, it's the first thing I uninstall when I get a new computer. I have been using AVG for years and like it. I also use Comodo's firewall/av bundle software and like that, too.

    I'd get a Mac, but $1,000?!? No way! Do they really have to price them so high? :(

    Glad to hear you've recovered, sorry it was such a pain!!

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  19. We have been using AVG for a few years, our computer guy loaded it for us. It seems to do a great job for us. Thanks for stopping by Gracie's. You are always welcome there. Have a great day.

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  20. Good advice. I don't use norton either and I only use mozilla. I don't like internet explorer. Thanks for letting us know.

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  21. I have switched from IE to Firefox but I have Norton on my computer. My husband thinks that is the only way to go, can't tell him any different. Good thing you have a great computer guy.

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  22. I was advised about Norton and I never used it.
    I use Firefox and Chrome.
    Hope I'm safe.

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  23. Glad you got your Trojans sorted out. I sort out mine from time to time...by colors. Oh, not that kind huh?
    I use FF. I hate IE. Really, with Norton Antivirus (not 360) and AdAdware, I've been lucky. Just keep those things updated or enable auto updates.

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  24. AVG and Adaware are a great combo. I use Avast instead of AVG, I have used them both but to me Advast seems to work better in the window environment. I would also ad Spyware Doctor, these all can be downloaded from CNET.com. Don;t ever pay for virus protection, believe it or not hey create most of the viruses, this comes from a very knowledgeable source. Of course as long as their are viruses we will need anti-virus. Norton's and all the rest that charge you are plain rip offs, that make TONS of money. Just like windows is and all their software. Open source code for OS like Ubuntu are for those who understand it, is the way to go. But that takes much knowledge.

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  25. I use Firefox now but the hubs still swears by IE and , yes, we use Norton!Eee Gads!

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  26. Desert Songbird1/20/2010

    My hubby, the computer software geek, keeps my laptop in tip top shape with AVG, and because of him, I've been using Firefox for several years now. Knock on wood, I've had no problems thus far.

    Now, having said that, we're probably going to upgrade me to a MacPowerbook in the next year, but my current laptop (a Dell Inspiron 1520) will be passed down to the kids. So, long story short (too late!) - my hubby is a geek that keeps me out of trouble, but one must also practice common sense when it comes to cruising around to sites of questionable nature (and I don't mean adult type content). Nothing is 100% perfect, but we can all use good advice. Glad your techie passed on some to you. Thanks for sharing!

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  27. Great information for Hillbilly Willy.

    10-4 Willy

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  28. I ditched McAfee and Norton long ago and had been using free AVG for years. I am now using the paid-for version, since it uses real time computer checking.

    Big hugs, honey...

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  29. I used Norton/McAfee forever ago it seems. Nowadays I use BitDefender, Comodo Firewall, Spybot S&D, and Cleaner. Sounds like overkill? Hehe, possibly. I find that most packages with the virus protection/firewall are weak in the firewall section, hence the additional separate firewall lover.

    So far, I've been good. Even while I had Norton ages ago and McAfee, there weren't much issues that I can recall. Just be sure to always know what you're downloading and where it's coming from.

    Also having a mac, I find it nice that this little demon doesn't need much care in the protection department as my PC. But, I still heart them both equally :P

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  30. Forgot to clarify, I actually only use Bitdefender for the Virus bit. No multiple firewall action for me!

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  31. im using Firefox and AVG for a year now..and it seems okay.

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  32. AVG is good, and yes, I use 2 malware removal programs. Update them and run them daily!

    Good luck & Aloha, Friend!


    Comfort Spiral

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  33. It seems the only thing safe anymore is a yellow lined notepad and a ball point pen.

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  34. I learned much the same thing in my Fix Your Own Computer class recently and gave up McAfee in exchange for Microsoft Security Essentials ... a newer free virus program that the instructor is impressed with. He used to use (and advise others to use) AVG but finds MSE works even better.

    I used to run SpyBot regularly but learned that Malwarebytes catches almost everything better these days so I used it and Combofix (both free programs) to clean up both my laptops ... cleared out the 'start menu' with msconfig and they're running MUCH faster.

    I don't use IE ... have used Firefox for YEARS and find it much better. As for Norton and McAfee ... both are expensive and intrusive ... slowing down the computer and they each miss LOTS of stuph. I don't think either is worth paying for.

    Thanks for sharing ... hope you don't have any more problems.
    Hugs and blessings,

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  35. after reading your article, I learned the danger of trojan virus
    may be applied in my life and my kmputer
    thanks sir

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  36. Hi Sandee! First thank you for the constant visit and the advices regarding my condition and stubbornness.

    Thanks for sharing about this. I will also check later my anti virus.

    Take care and have a great day!

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  37. Hi Sandee! First thank you for the constant visit and the advices regarding my condition and stubbornness.

    Thanks for sharing about this. I will also check later my anti virus.

    Take care and have a great day!

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  38. I stopped using Norton a long time ago. I was using AVG and got another virus. So now I am using Quick Heal Pro which was recommended to me by my vendor. It works very well, that's why I have renewed it this year also.

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  39. I'm surprised to hear Norton 360 perform so poorly. It's advertised as the best AV protection and I believe that too.
    You can try free avast 5 too, it's a reliable av and never use IE
    It's the worst browser I ever used

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  40. I'm surprised to hear Norton 360 perform so poorly. It's advertised as the best AV protection and I believe that too.
    You can try free avast 5 too, it's a reliable av and never use IE
    It's the worst browser I ever used

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  41. I stopped using Norton a long time ago.Still i am using Semantic AntiVirus

    Regards
    UPS Accessories

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